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Hi Everyone,
Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
The post below was written to be posted on the Reluctant Messenger Forum a little while back. This post never saw the light of day because a moderator decided that it was not forum worthy:
"Hi AnomianShohn,
Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
Shabbat Shalom!
I feel compelled to open up a little bit to you since after five years you have almost zero understanding about me. You should know that I am able to operate very well with moderation. Indeed, most of time at the Way I was under moderation. I don't like it, but I can function with it. I don't like moderation because of the impression it gives to others. I make the effort to reply to someone, and then they must wait for my response due to the artificial delay of moderation. Maybe they do not know that my posts are being moderated? What are they thinking about me? I usually do not reply to anyone in haste. People wait long enough for my replies without artificially slowing down the process.
On the other hand, I have seen that moderation sometimes appears beneficial to the moderators. I make a post, and the post does not appear. All of a sudden, the post appears, and guess what else appears, an immediate answer to my post. Now, what does that tell me? Why should anyone manipulate honest debate in such a fashion?
During the five years you saw me posting at the Way, how many times did you see me posting links back to my forums to the materials contained therein. Not very often. I don't like such methods of debate. If I write, the recipient should be man enough or woman enough to heads up reply. If not, then don't reply. As you have somewhat indicated, that actually is the best form of moderation. It is out in open. Everyone can see it, and everyone is aware of it.
I was tickled by some of your recent comments to me. I gave you a new name, AnomianShohn (Without Law Shohn), and you appeal to the Royal Law as if that appeal somehow gives you the status of being lawful. Supporters of the Royal Law understand that idols should not be constructed. Back in the 70's when Mr. Armstrong was sick with congestive heart failure, Garner Ted allowed the ministry to construct the STP (Systematic Theology) Project. The purpose of this project was to give the members and the world a book of doctrine to outline and define exactly what the Worldwide Church of God believed. When Mr. Armstrong recovered from his illness, he came down from the mountain like unto Moses and heads rolled. Mr. Armstrong viewed that project as idolatry, and so did I. Anyone who believes in on going revelation knows full well that what we believe today, is not what we are going to believe tomorrow.
So, in line with your understanding of the Royal Law, I give you warning that you should not be promoting Allan's Idol and encouraging others to fall down before that Idol with the idea that Allan's construct is somehow your belief. Silly man, can you not recognize the work of the hands of men? Why deny your ELOHIM and HIS on going revelation to you?
Of course, right here, those that truly believe in the Royal Law fully understand that any warning from one is wholly inadequate. Two witnesses are required, and the nature of the transgression of the Law must be clearly stated in their testimony. Funny thing about valid witnesses. They must be independent; they cannot be collaborators. So, under the Royal Law, my warning to you is worthless, unless someone else appears independent to me. When two witnesses give their testimony, then the good of the ONE becomes the good of the MANY!
Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
Sincerely, Latuwr
7:48 AM 7/7"
I suppose that idols exist all over the web. What do you think?
Thanking in advance any that should be moved to reply, I am,
Sincerely, Latuwr
P.S. In the repost above, I changed calibrators to collaborators.
Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
The post below was written to be posted on the Reluctant Messenger Forum a little while back. This post never saw the light of day because a moderator decided that it was not forum worthy:
"Hi AnomianShohn,
Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
Shabbat Shalom!
I feel compelled to open up a little bit to you since after five years you have almost zero understanding about me. You should know that I am able to operate very well with moderation. Indeed, most of time at the Way I was under moderation. I don't like it, but I can function with it. I don't like moderation because of the impression it gives to others. I make the effort to reply to someone, and then they must wait for my response due to the artificial delay of moderation. Maybe they do not know that my posts are being moderated? What are they thinking about me? I usually do not reply to anyone in haste. People wait long enough for my replies without artificially slowing down the process.
On the other hand, I have seen that moderation sometimes appears beneficial to the moderators. I make a post, and the post does not appear. All of a sudden, the post appears, and guess what else appears, an immediate answer to my post. Now, what does that tell me? Why should anyone manipulate honest debate in such a fashion?
During the five years you saw me posting at the Way, how many times did you see me posting links back to my forums to the materials contained therein. Not very often. I don't like such methods of debate. If I write, the recipient should be man enough or woman enough to heads up reply. If not, then don't reply. As you have somewhat indicated, that actually is the best form of moderation. It is out in open. Everyone can see it, and everyone is aware of it.
I was tickled by some of your recent comments to me. I gave you a new name, AnomianShohn (Without Law Shohn), and you appeal to the Royal Law as if that appeal somehow gives you the status of being lawful. Supporters of the Royal Law understand that idols should not be constructed. Back in the 70's when Mr. Armstrong was sick with congestive heart failure, Garner Ted allowed the ministry to construct the STP (Systematic Theology) Project. The purpose of this project was to give the members and the world a book of doctrine to outline and define exactly what the Worldwide Church of God believed. When Mr. Armstrong recovered from his illness, he came down from the mountain like unto Moses and heads rolled. Mr. Armstrong viewed that project as idolatry, and so did I. Anyone who believes in on going revelation knows full well that what we believe today, is not what we are going to believe tomorrow.
So, in line with your understanding of the Royal Law, I give you warning that you should not be promoting Allan's Idol and encouraging others to fall down before that Idol with the idea that Allan's construct is somehow your belief. Silly man, can you not recognize the work of the hands of men? Why deny your ELOHIM and HIS on going revelation to you?
Of course, right here, those that truly believe in the Royal Law fully understand that any warning from one is wholly inadequate. Two witnesses are required, and the nature of the transgression of the Law must be clearly stated in their testimony. Funny thing about valid witnesses. They must be independent; they cannot be collaborators. So, under the Royal Law, my warning to you is worthless, unless someone else appears independent to me. When two witnesses give their testimony, then the good of the ONE becomes the good of the MANY!
Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
Sincerely, Latuwr
7:48 AM 7/7"
I suppose that idols exist all over the web. What do you think?
Thanking in advance any that should be moved to reply, I am,
Sincerely, Latuwr
P.S. In the repost above, I changed calibrators to collaborators.